When you going to make a 100 hp motor ?

Muddog · 05-07-2007, 03:19 PM

come on give us what we want :appledance:

Duxbwar · 05-08-2007, 08:22 AM

patience Jedi. I don't think you will see 100 (yet) but something more than HD6000. It would have to be set up on a console. I don't think you could run a tiller style with that many ponies.

furduknfish · 05-08-2007, 09:04 AM

How bout a 500 horse 383 stroker:
http://www.blizzarddesigns.com/mudboat/mudboat.html

Mucho moola though...

BUCKWILD · 05-08-2007, 05:25 PM

I think that was the same boat that was at mudfest last year. 70+ in the shallows from what I heard.

muddyduck · 05-31-2007, 09:14 PM

Holy Cow!! I bet that one cost a few $$$. But I'll bet he dosnt take long to get to his spot.:bananajump:

ez2beme00 · 06-01-2007, 11:12 AM

I think I read somewhere that he has about $60K into that boat, it was hand built from the ground up.

Gun Doc · 06-01-2007, 03:48 PM

It will pass everything on the water except a fuel dock . . .

furduknfish · 06-03-2007, 04:33 PM

They're all hand-built in S.LA... Centerville, LA to be specific.

weathers1200 · 07-27-2007, 06:27 PM

Have you guys ever seen what the local;s run in Thailand? I have seen tiller steer, long tail big block Chevy V-8's that just haul azz on a wood 25 ft. boat.

Superfly · 09-01-2007, 11:49 PM

Yeah! That's what I want! A 100+hp LONGTAIL! That makes me tired and all beat up just thinking about it.
:311boxing-thumb:

Blackducks · 09-11-2007, 05:36 AM

Why didn't anybody continue with development of the Harley engine on mud motors? I know the longtail that was out a few years back, was a nightmare to run, but on a short tail, that might have been doable, especially with remote (hydraulic) steering.

Or maybe one of the new Buell engines (made by Rotax)? 92 & 102HP, not all that heavy (considering the HP numbers), purpose built for high HP & torque (not hopped up with a bunch of aftermarket parts), much higher peak rpms, reliable, and best of all, a 24 month, unlimited mileage warranty! Imagine the prop you could spin with one of those engines!

Count me in, if that ever becomes reality!

frikkidikki · 09-11-2007, 06:05 PM

The Harley engines with their 45 degree cylinder spacing are inherently shakers. Most of The Faithful who buy them as motorcycle powerplants know this and love them that way.( to each his own ) To others it is a fashion statement/status symbol and they could care less as long as it will crank and run and they can afford to pay someone else to change the oil in it. But, I digress, if you put one on a MM it would beat the crap out of the drivetrain and the boat itself. One could build in counterbalancers or some kind of funky isolation type engine mounts, but who needs or wants the extra weight and complexity (extra cost ). The Briggs engines have their cylinders spaced at 90 degrees which allows them to have perfect primary balance (smooth). This configuration is also used by Ducati, Suzuki and Honda for their Large displacement V-twins, Maybe one of these 100 + Hp twins could be adapted to MM use.

**BoatDR** · 09-11-2007, 06:58 PM

Who says that they are not testing "other" brands of motors right now? hehe.

**Backwaters** · 09-12-2007, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frikkidikki

but who needs or wants the extra weight and complexity (extra cost ).

I know of many that want larger mud motors and not just a hopped up 35hp Briggs. For a smaller boat that you have to take weight in consideration the modded motors are the way to go, but I would like to see larger displacement for an 1860 and up. Even though the current mud motors will get you to places that an outboard won't, there are still far too many that will not give up their 1860+ with a 75hp+ rig and two rigs seem to be out of the question.

I'm anxious to see what Mud Buddy will have for the larger motors.

foldem · 09-13-2007, 08:33 PM

i want a hyabusa motor with turbo and nitrous:017:

Duxbwar · 09-16-2007, 06:42 PM

From what I've seen and heard a Harley has a hard time running or starting when it's 40 degrees outside, let alone below zero.

weathers1200 · 09-23-2007, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duxbwar

From what I've seen and heard a Harley has a hard time running or starting when it's 40 degrees outside, let alone below zero.

Not my fuel injected twin cam, balanced 88! Starts every time and hauls azz!

BIGMIKE · 03-14-2008, 02:26 PM

Never have I seen a boat I wanted so badly as I do the 383 powered "FOWL HABIT". I think I felt a little thwinge in a part of my body that I havent felt in, well, ever!!! That thing is sweet.

archermatt · 03-14-2008, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weathers1200

Not my fuel injected twin cam, balanced 88! Starts every time and hauls azz!

I brought mine up here to GA with me while assigned here. It was 27 the other day and fired right up! Little cold on the ride in....ok a lot cold! The newer engines don't shake like the older ones as they have a balanced crank. My buddies softail has rigid mounts and his hardly shakes at all!

weathers1200 · 03-18-2008, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackducks

Why didn't anybody continue with development of the Harley engine on mud motors? I know the longtail that was out a few years back, was a nightmare to run, but on a short tail, that might have been doable, especially with remote (hydraulic) steering.

Or maybe one of the new Buell engines (made by Rotax)? 92 & 102HP, not all that heavy (considering the HP numbers), purpose built for high HP & torque (not hopped up with a bunch of aftermarket parts), much higher peak rpms, reliable, and best of all, a 24 month, unlimited mileage warranty! Imagine the prop you could spin with one of those engines!

Count me in, if that ever becomes reality!

You cannot keep the harley engines cool enough. No one has come up with a fan system to move enough air over them at high output. Plus they are really expensive!

forever draggin · 07-04-2008, 09:28 PM

now keepin the harley kool might be a problem, but harleys arent that expensive u can get em for 3k, matte black

pacompay · 09-09-2008, 08:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VFSc...eature=related
I 'm order my new eng for next year for my rogue 16x38,at this moment is on the dyno test.......but you can see some thin in advance

Can Killer · 09-10-2008, 09:48 AM

The golf cart folks have some V-twins in teh 90 HP range. The big problem is longevity. You can make all the horsepower and torque you want for a short time. Kinda like Nascar engines...they go real fast for a few hundred miles and then they become anchors. If you want an anchor I'm sure you can have one.

Glenn is taking the right approach by increasing horsepower and torque incrementally to determine what combination works best for longevity of the power plant based on the abuse everyone puts on these motors.

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furduknfish Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Age: 32 Posts: 469 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: When you going to make a 100 hp motor ? How bout a 500 horse 383 stroker: http://www.blizzarddesigns.com/mudboat/mudboat.html Mucho moola though... __________________ "Dont believe everything that you breathe You get a parking violation and a maggot on your sleeve."

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BUCKWILD Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baton Rouge Age: 32 Posts: 406 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: When you going to make a 100 hp motor ? I think that was the same boat that was at mudfest last year. 70+ in the shallows from what I heard. __________________ 1854 GATORTRAX *HD6000 PRO FLOW*

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weathers1200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lake Mary, Florida Age: 52 Posts: 1,329 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Re: When you going to make a 100 hp motor ? Have you guys ever seen what the local;s run in Thailand? I have seen tiller steer, long tail big block Chevy V-8's that just haul azz on a wood 25 ft. boat. __________________ Weathers1200 "Gear head" "When your draft exceeds the waters depth, you are most assuredly aground!"

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Superfly Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Charleston S.C. Posts: 176 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: When you going to make a 100 hp motor ? Yeah! That's what I want! A 100+hp LONGTAIL! That makes me tired and all beat up just thinking about it. :311boxing-thumb:

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Blackducks Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: When you going to make a 100 hp motor ? Why didn't anybody continue with development of the Harley engine on mud motors? I know the longtail that was out a few years back, was a nightmare to run, but on a short tail, that might have been doable, especially with remote (hydraulic) steering. Or maybe one of the new Buell engines (made by Rotax)? 92 & 102HP, not all that heavy (considering the HP numbers), purpose built for high HP & torque (not hopped up with a bunch of aftermarket parts), much higher peak rpms, reliable, and best of all, a 24 month, unlimited mileage warranty! Imagine the prop you could spin with one of those engines! Count me in, if that ever becomes reality!

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frikkidikki Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lake Panasoffkee, FL Age: 43 Posts: 377 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: When you going to make a 100 hp motor ? The Harley engines with their 45 degree cylinder spacing are inherently shakers. Most of The Faithful who buy them as motorcycle powerplants know this and love them that way.( to each his own ) To others it is a fashion statement/status symbol and they could care less as long as it will crank and run and they can afford to pay someone else to change the oil in it. But, I digress, if you put one on a MM it would beat the crap out of the drivetrain and the boat itself. One could build in counterbalancers or some kind of funky isolation type engine mounts, but who needs or wants the extra weight and complexity (extra cost ). The Briggs engines have their cylinders spaced at 90 degrees which allows them to have perfect primary balance (smooth). This configuration is also used by Ducati, Suzuki and Honda for their Large displacement V-twins, Maybe one of these 100 + Hp twins could be adapted to MM use. __________________ Sometimes I amuse,er...amaze myself .Yeah, that's it,Amaze myself

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Can Killer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 380 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: When you going to make a 100 hp motor ? The golf cart folks have some V-twins in teh 90 HP range. The big problem is longevity. You can make all the horsepower and torque you want for a short time. Kinda like Nascar engines...they go real fast for a few hundred miles and then they become anchors. If you want an anchor I'm sure you can have one. Glenn is taking the right approach by increasing horsepower and torque incrementally to determine what combination works best for longevity of the power plant based on the abuse everyone puts on these motors.

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